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		<title>By: Mark in Scottsdale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark in Scottsdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The total absurdity of living in Arizona and NOT BEING ABLE TO FIND ONE SINGLE HVAC contractor to give me an estimate on a solar powered radiant (in floor) heating system for my home is driving me almost to the brink of insanity!  

The HVAC dealers seem hell bent on selling me yet another, better, more costly, heat pump. Well, as a matter of fact I have 12 tons of SEER rated 15 TRANE heat pumps NOW - and the truth is that the lousy system does not keep the house warm other than when it is running. Obviously the heat loss calculations were not done and the installing HVAC contractor simply threw in the number of units and tonnage he deemed necessary. 

While the house is new and has R40 in ceilings and R20 in walls, the installing HVAC Contractor failed to account for 12 &amp; 15 foot ceilings and travertine marble floors throughout (on a slab, of course.)  Our first winter here has been awful! We&#039;ve installed a propane heater in our bed room and bath to make it habitable in the early mornings. Our heat pumps can run until they&#039;re blue and the rooms simply do not stay warm!  

I feel the best long term solution is a solar powered radiant tube system in the MBR/MBR Bath &amp; Dressing area and back it up with a small electric boiler set to run at the very lowest utility rate times only.  A few hundred gallons of solar heated 140 degree water and a circulating pump or two should not present a major problem to install. However, the local HVAC contractors are incapable of &quot;thinking&quot; of anything that does not suck down electricity by the megawatt per hour and they won&#039;t even bother to respond to a request for design and proposal.  

It&#039;s my intention to add the radiant system to the MBR/Bath/Dressing area this year, and then expand it to the central part of the house next year as I can afford to replace the rather pricey Travertine Marble with Hardwood floors. While it may take me three years, I&#039;ll have mainly solar powered heating for the entire house and no more winters in a marble massoleum. The costs of the installation will be recovered in about five years and from then on, my wintertime Heating costs should be minimal. The fact that AZ has more sunshine per month than any other state would make one think that solar powered HVAC would be a major business here. Much to my disappointment it is not. 

And interestingly enough, it is these same narrow minded HeatPump Jockeys that are crying because the building industry here is now in the toilet as are home prices.  Maybe if they were smart enough to offer something that was BETTER and COST EFFECTIVE the consumers would beat a path to their door, check books in hand!  I&#039;ve got a million dollar home and we&#039;re freezing because some of these idiots couldn&#039;t do their homework right, or they maximized their profits by undersizing the units intentionally. 

Some of the &quot;biggest&quot; HVAC companies in town are now going under as they no longer have builders standing in line for their dubious services for new homes.  A change of attitude and a look at newer technology might be the very thing that keeps them afloat and to date, I cannot find one who&#039;s smart enough to figure that fact out!

 Now I can&#039;t find a contractor who&#039;s competent to fix the mess at my expense. How very strange it seems to me...

If anyone out there knows a COMPETENT HVAC CONTRACTOR who has experience installing radiant hydronic in floor heating systems powered primarily by solar collectors - PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHO IT MAY BE!  I want to meet this rare businessman ASAP!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The total absurdity of living in Arizona and NOT BEING ABLE TO FIND ONE SINGLE HVAC contractor to give me an estimate on a solar powered radiant (in floor) heating system for my home is driving me almost to the brink of insanity!  </p>
<p>The HVAC dealers seem hell bent on selling me yet another, better, more costly, heat pump. Well, as a matter of fact I have 12 tons of SEER rated 15 TRANE heat pumps NOW &#8211; and the truth is that the lousy system does not keep the house warm other than when it is running. Obviously the heat loss calculations were not done and the installing HVAC contractor simply threw in the number of units and tonnage he deemed necessary. </p>
<p>While the house is new and has R40 in ceilings and R20 in walls, the installing HVAC Contractor failed to account for 12 &amp; 15 foot ceilings and travertine marble floors throughout (on a slab, of course.)  Our first winter here has been awful! We&#8217;ve installed a propane heater in our bed room and bath to make it habitable in the early mornings. Our heat pumps can run until they&#8217;re blue and the rooms simply do not stay warm!  </p>
<p>I feel the best long term solution is a solar powered radiant tube system in the MBR/MBR Bath &amp; Dressing area and back it up with a small electric boiler set to run at the very lowest utility rate times only.  A few hundred gallons of solar heated 140 degree water and a circulating pump or two should not present a major problem to install. However, the local HVAC contractors are incapable of &#8220;thinking&#8221; of anything that does not suck down electricity by the megawatt per hour and they won&#8217;t even bother to respond to a request for design and proposal.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s my intention to add the radiant system to the MBR/Bath/Dressing area this year, and then expand it to the central part of the house next year as I can afford to replace the rather pricey Travertine Marble with Hardwood floors. While it may take me three years, I&#8217;ll have mainly solar powered heating for the entire house and no more winters in a marble massoleum. The costs of the installation will be recovered in about five years and from then on, my wintertime Heating costs should be minimal. The fact that AZ has more sunshine per month than any other state would make one think that solar powered HVAC would be a major business here. Much to my disappointment it is not. </p>
<p>And interestingly enough, it is these same narrow minded HeatPump Jockeys that are crying because the building industry here is now in the toilet as are home prices.  Maybe if they were smart enough to offer something that was BETTER and COST EFFECTIVE the consumers would beat a path to their door, check books in hand!  I&#8217;ve got a million dollar home and we&#8217;re freezing because some of these idiots couldn&#8217;t do their homework right, or they maximized their profits by undersizing the units intentionally. </p>
<p>Some of the &#8220;biggest&#8221; HVAC companies in town are now going under as they no longer have builders standing in line for their dubious services for new homes.  A change of attitude and a look at newer technology might be the very thing that keeps them afloat and to date, I cannot find one who&#8217;s smart enough to figure that fact out!</p>
<p> Now I can&#8217;t find a contractor who&#8217;s competent to fix the mess at my expense. How very strange it seems to me&#8230;</p>
<p>If anyone out there knows a COMPETENT HVAC CONTRACTOR who has experience installing radiant hydronic in floor heating systems powered primarily by solar collectors &#8211; PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHO IT MAY BE!  I want to meet this rare businessman ASAP!</p>
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		<title>By: John Hingle</title>
		<link>http://poweredbysolarpanels.com/solar-powered-homes/comment-page-1/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>John Hingle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 01:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the cost of fossil fuels become more expensive, it is up to us to use alternative power sources. Solar power is a reliable and constant source for us to use. It has become a cost efficient system that any one can use. Solar hot water and solar radiant heat are very cost effective and simple to install. That is a good place to begin the use of solar power. Another advantage is using solar energy to run our out door lighting and our some of our household products as well. Solar can be used to operate radios, watches, and to recharge every day items such as PDAs, cellphones and other every day items.  It is possible to use solar power on every level of home life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the cost of fossil fuels become more expensive, it is up to us to use alternative power sources. Solar power is a reliable and constant source for us to use. It has become a cost efficient system that any one can use. Solar hot water and solar radiant heat are very cost effective and simple to install. That is a good place to begin the use of solar power. Another advantage is using solar energy to run our out door lighting and our some of our household products as well. Solar can be used to operate radios, watches, and to recharge every day items such as PDAs, cellphones and other every day items.  It is possible to use solar power on every level of home life.</p>
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